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【2025 立春更新】蒐證樓：綠茶老司機的學長 Flemming 詐欺之可能 ＆「學長＝綠茶老司機分身」之推論
ISSUE #32
Author: W.H.
Published:
Feb 24, 2025
【2025 立春更新】蒐證樓：綠茶老司機的學長 Flemming 詐欺之可能 ＆「學長＝綠茶老司機分身」之推論
Author: W.H.
Published:
Feb 24, 2025
ISSUE #32
【Feb/24/2025 更新】重大訊息＋來個逆推，看看「涼涼（創作群）」的前身們
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〖「涼涼（創作群）」的個人頁 〗

https://www.penana.com/user/215625/%E6%B6%BC%E6%B6%BC-%E5%89%B5%E4%BD%9C%E7%BE%A4/portfolio

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在讀者觀看這篇之前，先向大家道個歉：我並不想歹戲拖棚，只是看到那廝一而再、再而三更改自介，覺得好笑，加上資料都在手邊，不做白不做。

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我本來就是資料蒐集整理控嘛。

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故此，我將之前的截圖找出來，以逆推法來看看「涼涼（創作群）」的前身們。

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二次元關於那廝的文，我希望這篇是最後一篇；之後，將是三次元真實世界的事了。

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【插播一下重大訊息】

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中華民國刑法：第 二 編 分則 第 三十六 章 妨害電腦使用罪

https://law.moj.gov.tw/LawClass/LawParaDeatil.aspx?pcode=C0000001&bp=55

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注意：§ 361、§ 362 是「非告訴乃論之罪」。

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〖中華民國刑法　第 362 條〗

製作專供犯本章之罪之電腦程式，而供自己或他人犯本章之罪，致生損害於公眾或他人者，處五年以下有期徒刑、拘役或科或併科六十萬元以下罰金。

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目前 Penana 頻頻遭受春藥廣告攻擊，可能是某人以惡意程式為之，是否為自製電腦程式，猶未可知，只能等到以「中華民國刑法第 362 條」告發警方以後，由警方和檢察機關發動偵查再說。

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之前還有一堆，都被管理員砍了。

春藥廣告幾天前開始，恰好在「涼涼」四隻分身被停權不久之後。

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〖短文・最新〗

https://www.penana.com/articles?&order=latest

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全部被春藥廣告洗版，使得外面的網友、蕉友、想要知道最新發文訊息的讀者們，看不到真正有用的提示。

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至於大量廣告洗版，已經造成站方伺服器負擔，甚至進而造成損害；站方是苦主，可以看下一段。

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Penana 站方的臺灣分部，擁有「妨害電腦使用罪 § 360」的告訴權 (這條是「告訴乃論之罪」)，可以好好使用。

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如果超過六個月，還有「妨害電腦使用罪 § 362」(非告訴乃論之罪)，可以拿來用；非告訴乃論之罪，不但沒有得知後需六個月內提出告訴的限制，也不限受害者，只要握有證據，任何人均可向警方告發，警方不敢吃案。

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目前本蒐證樓提出，有關刑法觸犯之罪有：1. 詐欺背信及重利罪、2. 妨害風化罪、3. 兒童及少年性剝削罪 (廣義刑法)、4. 妨害電腦使用罪 § 362 (註) —— 都是「非告訴乃論之罪」，也就是說，只要握有證據 (例如網址、網頁截圖等)，任何人均可向警方告發，而且不受告訴乃論「六個月」限制。

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(註)：其實，還有「妨害名譽及信用罪」(公然侮辱，例如罵我「小丑跳樑」) ，因為是「告訴乃論之罪」，已經過了「得知後六個月內提告」的期限，所以不放入。

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這只是在蕉園的行徑，其他網站證據更多，別忘了，我是資料蒐集整理控。

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在看這些截圖之前，我提醒一下：無論「暱稱」、「頭像」如何改變，只要是同一個帳號，「用戶號碼」絕對不會變。請注意這串數字：

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「215625」，這是「涼涼＝綠茶老司機 (前世，其用戶號碼：133028)」的用戶號碼，就像身分證字號一樣，除非砍掉重練，否則不變。

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〖「涼涼（創作群）」的個人頁 〗

https://www.penana.com/user/215625/%E6%B6%BC%E6%B6%BC-%E5%89%B5%E4%BD%9C%E7%BE%A4/portfolio

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請注意字串裡的「215625」，這就是用戶號碼。

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一、【目前的「涼涼（創作群）」】

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二、【不久前的「涼涼（創作群）」】

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三、【再早一點的「涼涼」】

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https://www.penana.com/article/1602389

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四、【2024 年 6 月下旬的「涼涼」】(以我截圖的時間算，我通常一看到就截圖了～)

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五、【2024 年 6 月中旬的「徒 奈何」】

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這個截圖，我沒有截到網址欄，但從「註冊日期」、「自介文字」、「個作名稱」、「參加的創挑」來看，可以知道跟「涼涼」是同一人～

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六、【2024 年 5 月上旬的「徒奈何」】

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七、【2024 年 5 月 1 日 (註冊日) 的「白色彼岸花」】

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八、【前一世「綠茶老司機」】

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從四～七，可以看出當時「涼涼/徒 奈何/徒奈何/白色彼岸花」並不是創作群，一直都是單槍匹馬，發布 H 文；然後，不知何時，「涼涼」變成五人集體創作，而且互相按讚，例如：

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https://www.penana.com/article/1576029

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https://www.penana.com/article/1558503

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最終被踢爆：

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https://www.penana.com/article/1622042

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【Mar/07/2025 中午 12 點多 更新】

涼涼 (目前叫「涼涼創作群」) 退出上開創挑，刪了一留言、改了另一個：

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不把兩則留言都刪掉，留下「還賞金」那一則＋把內容刪去，看起來就像是單純打賞一樣。

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誠如我在前一章所言：

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【原文出處】

https://www.penana.com/article/1636441

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最後，還是這兩句話：「凡走過必留下痕跡 (網路更甚)」＆「人在做，天在看」！！

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